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By Russell Maroon Shoatz
     
Yes I too was shocked by Trump's victory.
      
Chris Hedges has been saying for awhile that there was a good chance that would happenbased on his experience in E. Europe in the 1980/90s, and how harsh economic conditions coupled with the lack of viable left alternatives opens the door to late-20th-century Hitler types.
      
And Bernie & Jill Stein's ability to fill that need proved to be inadequate.
      
Even so, neither would have been able to deliver anything near what is needed, despite Bernie's rhetoric about a "Demo. Rev." Simply because "the deep state" and the contradictions entrenched in American cultural norms, coupled with the environmental "wild card," demands much, much more than anything I have yet to learn is adequately being organized around on the Left.
      
By the same token, Trump has no real chance of satisfying the 1/2 of the country who wants him to succeed; for the same reasons. No matter how extreme his camp gets! This leaves us where the country was in 1860/61 . . . with contemporary touches.
      
The nationwide resistance is encouraging, and the possibility is there to replicate the early Tea Party by holding Town Halls that demand the politicians in the places Trump won deliver on their promiseswhich they won't, leaving the door open to win more to our side, while we grapple with how to really change things.
      
Just a few thoughts. . . .
      
STRAIGHT AHEAD!
     
     
By Roy Wall
     
In response to Steve Bloom's thoughts about the US election:
      
I was immediately struck by the parallel of trump's victory and the Brexit vote in Britain to leave the EU.  I believe that they were both products of similar processes.
      
Trump, like the former leader of the UK Independence Party, Nigel Farage, another racist, gained support from sections of the working class that have been particularly impoverished since the crisis of 2007/8 from which there has been particularly poor recovery in both the USA(?) and UK.
      
Brexit and Trump's victory were both unwanted by the dominant section(s?) of finance capital in their respective countries. Trump's victory is more important because it signifies a new and fundamental crisis of the political system of the USA—based on the premise that the "ruling class ... wanted Hilary Clinton to be elected president."  Bourgeois democracy is supposed to deliver the result that the bourgeoisie want.  It didn't, hence there is now a fundamental crisis of the US political system.
     
     
By Deborah Engel-Di Mauro
     
Thanks for that, Steve.
     
I too, noticed the missing Clinton bumper stickers and lawn signs and wondered about that prior to election day, but didn't think that they would result in a Trump win. I disagree with you that the lack of enthusiasm for Clinton was invisible, but man was it underestimated!
     
I like your point about this election potentially having no more effect on racial consciousness and race relations than Obama's did. That's (sort of) a reassuring way to look at it.
     

By Cliff Connor
    

Hi Steve. Where do I send the penny?
     
Your ruminations were worth a lot more than a penny, but I'm glad you weren't trying to monetarize them. The main thing they were worth is the time to read them. 
     
I have one small comment to offer, on the topic of "bumper-sticker and lawn-sign consciousness."  I think there is a simple and direct explanation for why Trump would be expected to win a landslide in those "polls," and it has to do with the fundamental nature of his core supporters, who, as  the article you quoted described them, are "the cruelest and most bigoted" elements in our society. Most sensible car- and home-owners would expect a Hillary sign to invite a smashed windshield or window or worse, and would calculate that it's not worth the risk of being vandalized to advertise their political preference. 

   

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